Comments on: Jets Roster Analysis: What will the Jets do with Tobias Enstrom? (Part 2)

By: Breaking News: Winnipeg Jets agree to contract extension with Toby Enstrom | Illegal Curve Hockey

Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:50:28 +0000

[...] Ironically this signing comes on the heels of Richard Pollock’s analysis of what sort of contract the Jets rearguard might have secured from the Winnipeg Jets. (Read the two part series here; Part 1 and Part 2). [...]

By: Sean Weech

Sean Weech — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:41:00 +0000

Not true at all. Playing defense is a lot more about positioning and intelligence than it is about physicality.

The multitude of small non-physical rearguards who have flourished in the league pretty much prove you wrong.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:51:00 +0000

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. Defensemen like Karlsson and Rafalski have proven to be worth big time money as smaller puck-moving rearguards.

By: Joey Howe

Joey Howe — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:04:00 +0000

I think you need to take into account Enstrom’s size. Defencemen need to be extremely physical and Tobi’s size is a major downside. I think he’s only worth around 4-5 mil when you take that into consideration.

By: Mike Florence

Mike Florence — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:20:00 +0000

They have to lock up Toby long-term cause i have him on my jersey.

By: ICdave

ICdave — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:35:00 +0000

It has been fixed.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:13:00 +0000

I think, of that group, Bogosian would be candidate for six years. Yet, I still think they want a little more time to evaluate his worth. Interesting predicament.

By: Timothy Bonnar

Timothy Bonnar — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:57:00 +0000

Me either. I have to think Chevy signs one or two of his pending RFAs soon.

There are too many to leave until next year. Little, Wheeler, Bogo, Postma, Burmi all need to get done.

If six year deals are going to disappear, they may want to act now too.

By: Timothy Bonnar

Timothy Bonnar — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:53:00 +0000

If they can lock him up with Carle like money, that wouldn’t be terrible.

I am hopeful.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:37:00 +0000

I can see a team like Detroit all-in on a guy like this. He’d replace a Rafalski type far better than Ian White is able to. His production sometimes gets overlooked but it is hard to accumulate so many points.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:36:00 +0000

I think they have to do that soon or deal him. I think the in between could cause issues down the road for this squad. Smaller markets can’t afford to lose players for nothing.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:35:00 +0000

They absolutely will have an impact on each other. Good point, Tim. I wonder if they try and get Bogosian done early and then look at Enstrom. Haven’t heard any rumblings to that point yet.

By: Richard Pollock

Richard Pollock — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:35:00 +0000

Just noticed I have Carle at 6.0 per season. It is 5.5 and will be changed now.

By: Timothy Bonnar

Timothy Bonnar — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:11:00 +0000

Some thing that will be interesting to me is the order of the Bogo / Toby deals.

I believe the Jets will look to bring them both back, but I wonder if one deal will impact the other. They play on opposite sides, so the deals won’t effect play time, but they could impact eachother’s salaries.

By: masterjuddi

masterjuddi — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:08:00 +0000

great read Richard. Your comparison are bang on. it would be nice to have Enstrom locked down to support the Big Buff’s style but if that’s what the Jets want they should do it sooner than later.

By: Timothy Bonnar

Timothy Bonnar — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:06:00 +0000

Great comparables. I think you are bang one.

I’m very curious to see what kind of money he nets.

Toby is small, but his production is big. He is #7 in defensive points per game over the last three years.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&year_min=2010&year_max=2012&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&birth_country=&franch_id=&is_active=Y&is_hof=&pos=D&handed=&c1stat=points&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=points_per_game

By: Winnipeg RFA Analysis: What will the Jets do with Tobias Enstrom? (Part 1) | Illegal Curve Hockey

Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:13:02 +0000

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