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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-7214</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being from Toronto, I&#039;ve gotten used to having the secondary market around and understands the pro&#039;s and con&#039;s of it to teams, fans, and even the brokers. I get in Winnipeg they probably haven&#039;t seen much of the secondary market prior to the Jets coming into town, but it&#039;s not all bad like everyone thinks. I think the first year will be rough for some fans because tickets will be pricey and hard to get. After the initial novelty wears off, I think you will find the secondary market can provide a service in getting fans tickets. I go to about a dozen Leafs games a year buying them from brokers who spend tens of thousands of dollars with the Leafs for their tickets, money I could never spend. Through a broker, I am able to get access to those kinds of seats, if only for a game or two.

As for the Jets, one thing that your article failed to mention is a very limited supply. Take a look at the number of tickets for a Saturday night Leafs game against the Sens - 230 tickets available. For most Jets games I saw on StubHub, there&#039;s around 30-40 tickets available. 

That is a very, very small number. So people can wait for prices to go down, but with such a limited supply of tickets, if they wait too long they run the real risk of either not having any tickets available or not being able to find what they want (i.e.-only having expensive lower bowl seats available).

Furthermore, regarding cracking down on re-selling, I&#039;m a free market guy, but I&#039;m also realistic. The Jets can crack down on re-selling and threaten to take away seats, but the people that will hurt the most are the fans. Fans want tickets. If they can&#039;t buy them from the Jets, they will look for other places to buy them. If the Jets crackdown on people selling them on legitimate sites like StubHub, where customers are protected against fraud, then people will start looking to places like Craigslist or Kijiji, be forced to pay cash for tickets, and get ripped off far more often. That&#039;s what happened a lot a few years ago in Toronto (and I&#039;m sure a lot of other places) before, thanks largely to the internet, ticket resale became mainstream and more accepted. As a result, it also became safer for buyers.

I&#039;m sure no one really wants to hear any advocating for the secondary market because everyone wants to get tickets for face value. But when it sells out, those who are willing to pay more for those seats, will be glad it&#039;s there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being from Toronto, I&#8217;ve gotten used to having the secondary market around and understands the pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s of it to teams, fans, and even the brokers. I get in Winnipeg they probably haven&#8217;t seen much of the secondary market prior to the Jets coming into town, but it&#8217;s not all bad like everyone thinks. I think the first year will be rough for some fans because tickets will be pricey and hard to get. After the initial novelty wears off, I think you will find the secondary market can provide a service in getting fans tickets. I go to about a dozen Leafs games a year buying them from brokers who spend tens of thousands of dollars with the Leafs for their tickets, money I could never spend. Through a broker, I am able to get access to those kinds of seats, if only for a game or two.</p>
<p>As for the Jets, one thing that your article failed to mention is a very limited supply. Take a look at the number of tickets for a Saturday night Leafs game against the Sens &#8211; 230 tickets available. For most Jets games I saw on StubHub, there&#8217;s around 30-40 tickets available. </p>
<p>That is a very, very small number. So people can wait for prices to go down, but with such a limited supply of tickets, if they wait too long they run the real risk of either not having any tickets available or not being able to find what they want (i.e.-only having expensive lower bowl seats available).</p>
<p>Furthermore, regarding cracking down on re-selling, I&#8217;m a free market guy, but I&#8217;m also realistic. The Jets can crack down on re-selling and threaten to take away seats, but the people that will hurt the most are the fans. Fans want tickets. If they can&#8217;t buy them from the Jets, they will look for other places to buy them. If the Jets crackdown on people selling them on legitimate sites like StubHub, where customers are protected against fraud, then people will start looking to places like Craigslist or Kijiji, be forced to pay cash for tickets, and get ripped off far more often. That&#8217;s what happened a lot a few years ago in Toronto (and I&#8217;m sure a lot of other places) before, thanks largely to the internet, ticket resale became mainstream and more accepted. As a result, it also became safer for buyers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure no one really wants to hear any advocating for the secondary market because everyone wants to get tickets for face value. But when it sells out, those who are willing to pay more for those seats, will be glad it&#8217;s there.</p>
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		<title>By: Tickets Sold in the Winnipeg Jets Secondary Ticket Market &#124; Illegal Curve Hockey</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-7198</link>
		<dc:creator>Tickets Sold in the Winnipeg Jets Secondary Ticket Market &#124; Illegal Curve Hockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I’m not here to pass judgment on people who sell tickets in the secondary market (aka scalpers), because it is inevitable. It is difficult to control and regulate, as IC contributor Jack Tadman commented in this article previously. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I’m not here to pass judgment on people who sell tickets in the secondary market (aka scalpers), because it is inevitable. It is difficult to control and regulate, as IC contributor Jack Tadman commented in this article previously. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Illegal Curve Hockey &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday, June 29 Winnipeg Jets Morning Papers</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-6719</link>
		<dc:creator>Illegal Curve Hockey &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday, June 29 Winnipeg Jets Morning Papers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Toronto Sun:  Scalpers good for hockey.  Those prices actually blow my mind.  And make me think if anyone wants a P3 seat to Game 1&#8230;&#8230;.kidding.  Or am I?  Of course, if you need to brush up on the laws regarding scalping, IC&#8217;s own Jack Tadman wrote an informative piece entitled Speculating on ticket re-selling. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Toronto Sun:  Scalpers good for hockey.  Those prices actually blow my mind.  And make me think if anyone wants a P3 seat to Game 1&#8230;&#8230;.kidding.  Or am I?  Of course, if you need to brush up on the laws regarding scalping, IC&#8217;s own Jack Tadman wrote an informative piece entitled Speculating on ticket re-selling. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Manitoba Jets</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>Manitoba Jets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really informative piece.  Glad to know I&#039;m not gonna scalp tickets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really informative piece.  Glad to know I&#8217;m not gonna scalp tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: M Remis</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>M Remis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ticketmaster&#039;s ticket exchange is operated by Ticketmaster and does not sell for greater than face value (face value being the game day price of the ticket, as far as I know). The owner of the ticket gets a percentage of the sale price as does Ticketmaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ticketmaster&#8217;s ticket exchange is operated by Ticketmaster and does not sell for greater than face value (face value being the game day price of the ticket, as far as I know). The owner of the ticket gets a percentage of the sale price as does Ticketmaster.</p>
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		<title>By: M Remis</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-6425</link>
		<dc:creator>M Remis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I personally don&#039;t approve of ticket scalpers, there is really nothing we can do against them. As long as there are tickets, there will be a secondary market for them. It is impossible and a waste of resources to track down all of these people. Selling a ticket for greater than face value is no different than a hot dog vendor going to Costco and buying a case of Coke and then selling it to you for more than they paid. Just make it legal so the tickets are easier to obtain (although you could argue it pretty much is legal now)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I personally don&#8217;t approve of ticket scalpers, there is really nothing we can do against them. As long as there are tickets, there will be a secondary market for them. It is impossible and a waste of resources to track down all of these people. Selling a ticket for greater than face value is no different than a hot dog vendor going to Costco and buying a case of Coke and then selling it to you for more than they paid. Just make it legal so the tickets are easier to obtain (although you could argue it pretty much is legal now)</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Mindell</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2011/06/10/speculating-on-ticket-re-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-6424</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Mindell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are the legalities surrounding secondary vendors like Ticketmaster&#039;s Ticket Exchange? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the legalities surrounding secondary vendors like Ticketmaster&#8217;s Ticket Exchange? </p>
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