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		<title>By: MVN &#187; Extra security on tap for Sioux-Gopher hockey series</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-5841</link>
		<dc:creator>MVN &#187; Extra security on tap for Sioux-Gopher hockey series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] up sending a guy to the hospital with a head trauma. That incident sparked this blog post &#8211; Fan Behavior.  Grand Forks Herald &#8212; In the shadow of a scuffle that left a hockey fan seriously injured [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up sending a guy to the hospital with a head trauma. That incident sparked this blog post &#8211; Fan Behavior.  Grand Forks Herald &#8212; In the shadow of a scuffle that left a hockey fan seriously injured [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3223</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...Nice headline at hockeybias.com: Mamma, Don&#039;t Let Your Cowboys Grow Up To Be Sioux Fans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Nice headline at hockeybias.com: Mamma, Don&#8217;t Let Your Cowboys Grow Up To Be Sioux Fans!</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3222</link>
		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Jacobs article was a little much, though the comments were amazingly short sighted. The videos are just fine, the REA should be a tough place for the opposition. Holding out an olive branch doesn&#039;t strike me as being a good way to intimidate opponents.

I am with him for the rest of the stuff though. The fans need a little cleaning up in terms of the chants and stuff, and I think that comes with hockey education. Most long time GF residents are well versed in the game, but some students are new to hockey and just treat the games as party time. Paying customers are paying customers, but there should be an effort on both sides to create knowledgeable fans, which will lead (in my opinion) to better behaved fans. Cheering for elbows to the head and taunting a goalie as a sieve after he allows a goal on the 3rd rebound is bound to give a group a bad name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Jacobs article was a little much, though the comments were amazingly short sighted. The videos are just fine, the REA should be a tough place for the opposition. Holding out an olive branch doesn&#8217;t strike me as being a good way to intimidate opponents.</p>
<p>I am with him for the rest of the stuff though. The fans need a little cleaning up in terms of the chants and stuff, and I think that comes with hockey education. Most long time GF residents are well versed in the game, but some students are new to hockey and just treat the games as party time. Paying customers are paying customers, but there should be an effort on both sides to create knowledgeable fans, which will lead (in my opinion) to better behaved fans. Cheering for elbows to the head and taunting a goalie as a sieve after he allows a goal on the 3rd rebound is bound to give a group a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Charlie:&lt;/strong&gt;
Good link.  The writer hits it right on the head.

&lt;strong&gt;DG:&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree that more people need to be proactive, via email or telephone to make sure he is aware that people are serious about the issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Charlie:</strong><br />
Good link.  The writer hits it right on the head.</p>
<p><strong>DG:</strong><br />
I agree that more people need to be proactive, via email or telephone to make sure he is aware that people are serious about the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3211</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The vulgarity link above does not appear in my browser. The underlying link is at http://media.www.dakotastudent.com/media/storage/paper970/news/2004/10/25/Sectionsopinion/Lets-Use.Our.Minds.And.Find.Some.New.Chants-1771977.shtml]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vulgarity link above does not appear in my browser. The underlying link is at <a href="http://media.www.dakotastudent.com/media/storage/paper970/news/2004/10/25/Sectionsopinion/Lets-Use.Our.Minds.And.Find.Some.New.Chants-1771977.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://media.www.dakotastudent.com/media/storage/paper970/news/2004/10/25/Sectionsopinion/Lets-Use.Our.Minds.And.Find.Some.New.Chants-1771977.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3210</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously the &lt;a href=&quot;http://media.www.dakotastudent.com/media/storage/paper970/news/2004/10/25/Sectionsopinion/Lets-Use.Our.Minds.And.Find.Some.New.Chants-1771977.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;vulgarity&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is nothing new to the UND student hockey fans. It sounds as if it has been out of hand for a while; at least when the Gophers roll into town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the <a href="http://media.www.dakotastudent.com/media/storage/paper970/news/2004/10/25/Sectionsopinion/Lets-Use.Our.Minds.And.Find.Some.New.Chants-1771977.shtml" rel="nofollow"><b>vulgarity</b></a> is nothing new to the UND student hockey fans. It sounds as if it has been out of hand for a while; at least when the Gophers roll into town.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Jody Hodgson, the General Manager of Englestad Arena, replied to an email I sent yesterday (see below).  It looks like positive changes will be coming to Englestad Arena.  

I would encourage Sioux fans to contact Mr. Hodgson with suggestions to improve the fan experience and make Engelstad Arena the best place to watch college hockey in America.

As a DU fan I look forward to visiting the Ralph as soon as the changes are implemented either this season or in the near future.


    Damien,

    I am concerned about these issues, steps are being taken, and I share your desire to shine the most favorable light possible on college hockey. Thanks for taking the time to touch base.

    Sincerely,

    Jody]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jody Hodgson, the General Manager of Englestad Arena, replied to an email I sent yesterday (see below).  It looks like positive changes will be coming to Englestad Arena.  </p>
<p>I would encourage Sioux fans to contact Mr. Hodgson with suggestions to improve the fan experience and make Engelstad Arena the best place to watch college hockey in America.</p>
<p>As a DU fan I look forward to visiting the Ralph as soon as the changes are implemented either this season or in the near future.</p>
<p>    Damien,</p>
<p>    I am concerned about these issues, steps are being taken, and I share your desire to shine the most favorable light possible on college hockey. Thanks for taking the time to touch base.</p>
<p>    Sincerely,</p>
<p>    Jody</p>
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		<title>By: cross cheque</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>cross cheque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe this article should have been published in the Herald instead of Jacobs&#039;.  I hope that everyone realizes REA is not the only arena with bad behavior and definitely not the arena with the worst behavior.  As a fan I&#039;ve cursed fellow students for actions at games and maybe that&#039;s were it starts.  Be proactive as a fan and as a part of the Grand Forks community, what security guard wouldn&#039;t believe a Sioux fan turning in another Sioux fan for being a jerk?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this article should have been published in the Herald instead of Jacobs&#8217;.  I hope that everyone realizes REA is not the only arena with bad behavior and definitely not the arena with the worst behavior.  As a fan I&#8217;ve cursed fellow students for actions at games and maybe that&#8217;s were it starts.  Be proactive as a fan and as a part of the Grand Forks community, what security guard wouldn&#8217;t believe a Sioux fan turning in another Sioux fan for being a jerk?</p>
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		<title>By: guy@hockeybias.com</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3198</link>
		<dc:creator>guy@hockeybias.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goon,

The comments below the Herald article suggest you have one hell of an uphill fight on your hands if you want to clean things up at the Ralph. I hope you can get the ball rolling! You are on the right track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goon,</p>
<p>The comments below the Herald article suggest you have one hell of an uphill fight on your hands if you want to clean things up at the Ralph. I hope you can get the ball rolling! You are on the right track.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we are in agreement Dave. The writer missed an opportunity. Jacobs is a major reason I only get the paper on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are in agreement Dave. The writer missed an opportunity. Jacobs is a major reason I only get the paper on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3196</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dg,  I am not for taking the pre-game video out for the introductions I am for cleaning the arena up. JUst for the record Mike Jacobs is a polarizing figure in town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dg,  I am not for taking the pre-game video out for the introductions I am for cleaning the arena up. JUst for the record Mike Jacobs is a polarizing figure in town.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3195</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DG,

Good article.  Looks like the writer is getting his head bitten off in the comments section by the folks who read it.  While I&#039;m not one for removing video&#039;s that get the crowd pumped up, I think most people missed the point, which was that something needs to be done to clean up the games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DG,</p>
<p>Good article.  Looks like the writer is getting his head bitten off in the comments section by the folks who read it.  While I&#8217;m not one for removing video&#8217;s that get the crowd pumped up, I think most people missed the point, which was that something needs to be done to clean up the games.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3191</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#039;s Grand Forks Herald editorial calls out the fans who were misbehaving.  

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/138053/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s Grand Forks Herald editorial calls out the fans who were misbehaving.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/138053/" rel="nofollow">http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/138053/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3188</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article and a huge step in the right direction.  By all means come to the games have fun, be loud, drink as much as you want but treat everybody with class.

At NFL games you can send a text message to security and point out the troublemakers seats.

One of the worst parts of this is that there are many visiting fans who could be traveling to North Dakota and spending tourist dollars on hotels, food, tickets, merchandise and everything else.  Are they going to come when they hear these stories and many others?

When people have a bad experience visiting the Ralph they tell their friends and now with the internet they can tell tens of thousands of people on message boards.  

Its just bad business and it hurts the state of North Dakota.  I&#039;d be shocked if the Ralph &amp; UND don&#039;t make some major changes in the coming week.

The University of Nebraska football fans give a standing ovation to the opposing team at the end of every game...win or lose.  Thats class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and a huge step in the right direction.  By all means come to the games have fun, be loud, drink as much as you want but treat everybody with class.</p>
<p>At NFL games you can send a text message to security and point out the troublemakers seats.</p>
<p>One of the worst parts of this is that there are many visiting fans who could be traveling to North Dakota and spending tourist dollars on hotels, food, tickets, merchandise and everything else.  Are they going to come when they hear these stories and many others?</p>
<p>When people have a bad experience visiting the Ralph they tell their friends and now with the internet they can tell tens of thousands of people on message boards.  </p>
<p>Its just bad business and it hurts the state of North Dakota.  I&#8217;d be shocked if the Ralph &amp; UND don&#8217;t make some major changes in the coming week.</p>
<p>The University of Nebraska football fans give a standing ovation to the opposing team at the end of every game&#8230;win or lose.  Thats class.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3184</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good call they show up drunk and they get drunker, I no problems with people that want to drink, I do have issue with people that want to start trouble. I think the security needs to be quicker in pulling the plug on the trouble makers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call they show up drunk and they get drunker, I no problems with people that want to drink, I do have issue with people that want to start trouble. I think the security needs to be quicker in pulling the plug on the trouble makers.</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The beer vendors might not even factor into the equation. Many people, not just the students, show up to the games pissed as rats. The behaviour just worsens from there. Even in the suites, there are some people that have no businesses acting as they do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beer vendors might not even factor into the equation. Many people, not just the students, show up to the games pissed as rats. The behaviour just worsens from there. Even in the suites, there are some people that have no businesses acting as they do.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose if you&#039;re too drunk maybe the beer venders should cut people off is they look out of control, the thing is that they will go somewhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if you&#8217;re too drunk maybe the beer venders should cut people off is they look out of control, the thing is that they will go somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just think that the people who sell alcohol at the game need to police it better.  The other thing, is the arena should have security or police present and visible in those sections known to get out of hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think that the people who sell alcohol at the game need to police it better.  The other thing, is the arena should have security or police present and visible in those sections known to get out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-3168</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually with the new AD they have gotten more lax and haven&#039;t addressed fan behavior much at all. If anything I think it&#039;s slid backwords. I was re watching the game on DVR and it was really impressive to hear the F&#039; the Gophers on a national tv broadcast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually with the new AD they have gotten more lax and haven&#8217;t addressed fan behavior much at all. If anything I think it&#8217;s slid backwords. I was re watching the game on DVR and it was really impressive to hear the F&#8217; the Gophers on a national tv broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goon,

I am not surprised to hear about the atrocious behaviour that went on this weekend at the games, but I am stunned that UND does not currently have a fan code of conduct. In this day and age to not have a written policy that security personnel and other fans can cite as a means to get rid of some boors, is simply outlandish and a dereliction of duty by the administration of the athletic department at UND.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goon,</p>
<p>I am not surprised to hear about the atrocious behaviour that went on this weekend at the games, but I am stunned that UND does not currently have a fan code of conduct. In this day and age to not have a written policy that security personnel and other fans can cite as a means to get rid of some boors, is simply outlandish and a dereliction of duty by the administration of the athletic department at UND.</p>
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