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	<title>Comments on: Goon’s Top 20 pre-season ranking</title>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/09/08/goon%e2%80%99s-top-20-pre-season-ranking/comment-page-1/#comment-3283</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyle after seeing Minnesota play I agree Helgeson is brutal and I don&#039;t see why people think so highly of him. I think he is a waste of a uniform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle after seeing Minnesota play I agree Helgeson is brutal and I don&#8217;t see why people think so highly of him. I think he is a waste of a uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/09/08/goon%e2%80%99s-top-20-pre-season-ranking/comment-page-1/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James P. once the games are played these pre-season polls really don&#039;t matter. I am sure Air Force wasn&#039;t all that impressed with your pre-season ranking last season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James P. once the games are played these pre-season polls really don&#8217;t matter. I am sure Air Force wasn&#8217;t all that impressed with your pre-season ranking last season.</p>
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		<title>By: James P.</title>
		<link>http://illegalcurve.com/2009/09/08/goon%e2%80%99s-top-20-pre-season-ranking/comment-page-1/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>James P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think Michigan has to be rated above NoDak.  Michigan returns its top 4 scorers and 10 of its top 12.  It returns its entire defensive core save one guy who missed 33 of 41 games last year.  It returns its #1 goaltender.  

To replace a group of outgoing senior journeymen 2nd/3rd line forwards, they bring in a 2nd round NHL draft pick (Kevin Lynch), a 3rd rounder (Chris Brown), and another kid who starred for the USNTDP (AJ Treais). 

Michigan was every bit as good as NoDak last year, and returns a much stronger team.  NoDak&#039;s freshman are going to be awesome, but I can&#039;t see how that justifies ranking them ahead of a far more established team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Michigan has to be rated above NoDak.  Michigan returns its top 4 scorers and 10 of its top 12.  It returns its entire defensive core save one guy who missed 33 of 41 games last year.  It returns its #1 goaltender.  </p>
<p>To replace a group of outgoing senior journeymen 2nd/3rd line forwards, they bring in a 2nd round NHL draft pick (Kevin Lynch), a 3rd rounder (Chris Brown), and another kid who starred for the USNTDP (AJ Treais). </p>
<p>Michigan was every bit as good as NoDak last year, and returns a much stronger team.  NoDak&#8217;s freshman are going to be awesome, but I can&#8217;t see how that justifies ranking them ahead of a far more established team.</p>
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		<title>By: rhhb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhhb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you are having a large-sized laugh if you think lowell is only 10th-best in the country or that you think vermont is somehow going to win hockey east while losing 40-something percent of its scoring.

this manner of thinking proves you&#039;re hilariously unfamiliar with hockey east. what a joke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are having a large-sized laugh if you think lowell is only 10th-best in the country or that you think vermont is somehow going to win hockey east while losing 40-something percent of its scoring.</p>
<p>this manner of thinking proves you&#8217;re hilariously unfamiliar with hockey east. what a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: F2B&#38;G</title>
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		<dc:creator>F2B&#38;G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NMU is not Top 20 material until they prove themselves capable of playing at least .500 hockey before January 1st, and beating teams that a Top 20 squad should beat (like mine).

Your Top 3 are pretty much spot on.  I also think you underrated Cornell a few notches.  Though it&#039;s not always super exciting, tight defense wins a lot of games in the ECAC.

The Gophers probably aren&#039;t Top 10 material unless they miraculously learn to play tight defense.  Still, it is hard to envision a third mediocre year in a row for the almighty Gophers.  I think Lucia will find a way to flog them back into the NCAAs, though they probably won&#039;t go too deep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMU is not Top 20 material until they prove themselves capable of playing at least .500 hockey before January 1st, and beating teams that a Top 20 squad should beat (like mine).</p>
<p>Your Top 3 are pretty much spot on.  I also think you underrated Cornell a few notches.  Though it&#8217;s not always super exciting, tight defense wins a lot of games in the ECAC.</p>
<p>The Gophers probably aren&#8217;t Top 10 material unless they miraculously learn to play tight defense.  Still, it is hard to envision a third mediocre year in a row for the almighty Gophers.  I think Lucia will find a way to flog them back into the NCAAs, though they probably won&#8217;t go too deep.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think so UND has balance and still has a lot of talent through the forwards to go along with a pretty good defensive corps and goaltending. They lost a lot of Seniors (8) but only three of them were of the top end variety (Finely, Miller, Duncan).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so UND has balance and still has a lot of talent through the forwards to go along with a pretty good defensive corps and goaltending. They lost a lot of Seniors (8) but only three of them were of the top end variety (Finely, Miller, Duncan).</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of a homer forecast on the Sioux there Goon.  Your rationale for UND being #4:

We have alot of freshman coming on board!!  

I think you could easily argue that the Sioux rank in the middle of the pack.  I would love to believe they are contenders, but I can&#039;t find one compelling reason to rank them so high.  Who on the team is dominant?  Just a bunch of good players and alot of underclassmen.  Should be quite good but top four???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of a homer forecast on the Sioux there Goon.  Your rationale for UND being #4:</p>
<p>We have alot of freshman coming on board!!  </p>
<p>I think you could easily argue that the Sioux rank in the middle of the pack.  I would love to believe they are contenders, but I can&#8217;t find one compelling reason to rank them so high.  Who on the team is dominant?  Just a bunch of good players and alot of underclassmen.  Should be quite good but top four???</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gopher homer Lou Nannie said that the Gophers are going more physical so I guess that solves it for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gopher homer Lou Nannie said that the Gophers are going more physical so I guess that solves it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BU lost a ton of scoring and isn&#039;t going to be as good as they were last season. I think Hockey East is going to be down but it&#039;s the pre-season poll. I think the NCAA tourney will be wide open and I like where UND is right now. We will see what happens. That is why they play the games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BU lost a ton of scoring and isn&#8217;t going to be as good as they were last season. I think Hockey East is going to be down but it&#8217;s the pre-season poll. I think the NCAA tourney will be wide open and I like where UND is right now. We will see what happens. That is why they play the games.</p>
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		<title>By: redwing77</title>
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		<dc:creator>redwing77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m mostly in agreement.

I think BU and UND should swap places.  I think there&#039;s questions on both sides of the puck for UND.  Will they be able to sustain scoring and do so at a great clip?  How will they gel from the start?

BU is coming off a stellar season and, though they lose a lot of scoring, they should be just fine.

I also think that UMN is too high.  Kangas was brutal at times last year and their defense was abysmal along with Kangas.  I do agree with the poster above in believing that Helgeson is overrated.  I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s &quot;terrible,&quot; but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s as good as projected either.  I think Leddy will be good, but he&#039;ll start slow.  The question again likes in the Minnesota defensive zone.  Leddy is a puck mover.  If you can maintain puck control and pressure the Gophers and throw in physical play to boot, I still don&#039;t see the Gophers as being as explosive as any team ahead of them.

I guess I&#039;d move UW ahead of UMN but it is hard for me to think that there isn&#039;t going to be someone that comes out of nowhere this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mostly in agreement.</p>
<p>I think BU and UND should swap places.  I think there&#8217;s questions on both sides of the puck for UND.  Will they be able to sustain scoring and do so at a great clip?  How will they gel from the start?</p>
<p>BU is coming off a stellar season and, though they lose a lot of scoring, they should be just fine.</p>
<p>I also think that UMN is too high.  Kangas was brutal at times last year and their defense was abysmal along with Kangas.  I do agree with the poster above in believing that Helgeson is overrated.  I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s &#8220;terrible,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s as good as projected either.  I think Leddy will be good, but he&#8217;ll start slow.  The question again likes in the Minnesota defensive zone.  Leddy is a puck mover.  If you can maintain puck control and pressure the Gophers and throw in physical play to boot, I still don&#8217;t see the Gophers as being as explosive as any team ahead of them.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;d move UW ahead of UMN but it is hard for me to think that there isn&#8217;t going to be someone that comes out of nowhere this year.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks David.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great opening post.  Welcome to the site Eric!!  Looking forward to reading more inside college hockey by you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great opening post.  Welcome to the site Eric!!  Looking forward to reading more inside college hockey by you.</p>
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		<title>By: goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we will soon find out how good they are. I think Minnesota has some good pieces in place, even though they are young. Prediction;  but if there is another mid season meltdown it could get ugly for Lucia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we will soon find out how good they are. I think Minnesota has some good pieces in place, even though they are young. Prediction;  but if there is another mid season meltdown it could get ugly for Lucia.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting thoughts. I think Minnesota&#039;s exuberance over its new players will be short lived. Leddy is young, Budish is raw and Helgeson is terrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts. I think Minnesota&#8217;s exuberance over its new players will be short lived. Leddy is young, Budish is raw and Helgeson is terrible.</p>
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